Kioti injector pump problems Mar 17, 2004 · Well my time was up yesterday my CK 30 injector pump went. Oct 16, 2014 · Bought this tractor used in 2009 from a Kioti dealer with about 500 hour and found out yesterday from Kioti that the orginial pump was replaced with a new pump in 2008. Is it under warranty? I would start with the injectors but the hard part is which one being that it is intermittent. Dec 4, 2011 · Fuel should flow freely. If it does not look at the filter back. Inside the IP is a rack (toothed strip) that engages gears (one per engine cylinder) that control the amount of fuel injected (under 2000+ psi) into each cylinder near the top of the compression cycle of each piston. The first day I had it, I was backing up and a stick went up into the front-right CVC boot and it knocked the boot off (metal strap and all). . Fuel filter to injector pump line checked. Jan 23, 2021 · Replacing the pump has enabled me to correct some manufacturing issues around the location of the fuel lines and moving parts. Nov 9, 2011 · Based on posts on the owner-operator forum, this problem seems to effect 2005-2008 models. had lack of power. If it’s equipped. Grease went everywhere. If she doesn't start then you have another problem, not air in the lines. The Fix: As soon you encounter any earlier mentioned symptoms, inspect the entire fuel system thoroughly, including fuel filters, injectors, lines, hoses, and the pump. See full list on yardfloor. Kioti isn't the only maker with recurring problems, but they're the only one with recurring injection pump failures. Mar 6, 2015 · Back to the injection pump: Timing of the injector pump can't change dramatically, like all the sudden, unless something broke. Re: CK 25 gear, injector pump -----Thanks Lexgs for all your information. By the way, i purchased my DK45s used with 529 hours on it and found out today from my Kioti dealer looking up the warranty work that it had to new FIP put on it at 186 hours. Aug 11, 2015 · Review of Injector Pump and No Help from Dealer and Co. Even better, control sleeve replacement does not require special tools or re-calibration, if done right. This seems to have happened fairly often and is due to defective manufacturing or design. All these lines getting fuel but when crack injector line one right above injector pump and crank engine no fuel. Multiple injection pump failures have been reported on this site so I'd like to start a survey to collect data on these costly and frustrating failures. $273. Sep 23, 2012 · Thanks for update. so it doesn't seem like a warped head or injector pump problem, if the gears were stripped on the injection pump it seems like it should do it all the time and not start, unless the fuel gravity feeded Jun 27, 2024 · I have a Kioti CS2410 which will crank but not fire. I called the dealer and they walked me through bleeding the fuel line at the filter, lifter pump, and injector return line. Also May 23, 2023 · Im pretty sure its a gravity system but there is a round part on the engine near the injector pump that looks like a diaphragm pump, I will check that as well. There are a few things Aug 29, 2012 · Kioti CK30 Injection Pump Failure. make sure the vent in the fuel cap is not obstructed. Bled out canister and verified fuel is being pumped to the canister filter. It might occur if the injection pump turns faulty. Jun 17, 2023 · I've had a runaway motor on my CK25 and out of commissioned it months ago. I have no smoke when it cranks. Loosen the steel feed lines from the pump to the injectors, AT THE INJECTORS. Jul 8, 2005 · Problem is the kioti tech mentioned that there is a valve or something on or near the injector pump that should be opened also during the 30 second run then closed. The only other Oil & Fuel dk45s injector pump problems at 500 hrs. Edit: Sometimes it will crank, and start for about 2 seconds. The new heat shields from Kioti bought by dealer part number are too small and do not fit over the injector tip and are lose in the hole for the injector tip seat. A fuse!! A $273. Apr 21, 2012 · The IP is pricey but you should be able to get Kioti to fix (assuming that's the problem) because it's a known material/design defect. Joined Nov 28, 2010 Messages 3 Tractor kioti lk35. If you notice one or more of these warning signs, you may have to replace your diesel fuel injector pumps. Fuel injector repair/replacement . Mine is a 2008 CK20S So far: -I removed the hood, 2 bolts that have cotter pins Come along as we pull the injector pump out of this Kioti CK30, and attempt to see why it stopped working! I'm just trying to find any potential problems I'm missing that aren't a $1500 injection pump. if u shut it off w a key, u have a solenoid. I spoke to the dealer who is a real stand up guy - one of the reasons I bought the Kioti in the first place. so it doesn't seem like a warped head or injector pump problem, if the gears were stripped on the injection pump it seems like it should do it all the time and not start, unless the fuel gravity feeded Feb 7, 2020 · I figured I would throw to post up as food for thought while I put new fuel and return lines in and maybe throw some good injector cleaner in. Thread starter sherrym; Jul 20, 2018 · This is the Highly Detailed factory service repair manual for theKIOTI DAEDONG DK50 TRACTOR, this Service Manual has detailed illustrations as well as step by step instructions,It is 100 percents complete and intact. Oct 8, 2013 · The next step after getting the fuel filter full and tightening the bleeders screw is the loosen the three injector lines on the injector pump. Oct 14, 2019 · Hello: New guy here looking for some help. I used the tractor Saturday morning for about 2 hours and went to put it in the garage, wouldnt start again. they are specifically written for the do-it-yourself-er as well as the experienced mechanic. May 13, 2022 · Much more going on than the old 6610 with the Lucas or Simms injection pump. 87 for a fuse and I'm actually happy about it because it could have been something serious and (more) expensive. I motored it over after putting new 2. Oil & Fuel dk45s injector pump problems at 500 Oil & Fuel dk45s injector pump problems at 500 hrs. Nov 22, 2013 · Well here it is, Dec 2017 and I'm pretty sure my injector pump just crapped out. 87 fuse! A freaking fuse on a DIESEL INJECTOR PUMP. Does Oct 2, 2022 · U first need to determine if the inj pump is pumping fuel up to the injectors. The tractor (and pump) has 380hrs on it. Oct 5, 2003 · Yep, the injector pump is controlled by a computer and a fuse had blown. Taken hose off at fuel injector and when i run the pump, diesel flows. Dealer replaced it under warranty. Nov 23, 2021 · The engine may misfire or fail to start altogether if the fuel injector pump isn’t working. Replaced canister filer, inline filter, and drained fuel tank. injection pump gear or cam or injection pump plungers or rollers. Aug 28, 2012 · Hi, In April, I bought a new Kioti Mechron 2200 UTV from my local dealer. Nov 15, 2022 · Diesel engines are not all the same in how they fire their injectors, some will use a setup like you describe, where the diesel injector pump increases the pressure for each injector at just the right time, exceeding the pressure set for the injector, and then the injector fires, others have a pump that pressurizes the injectors at a constant Mar 31, 2007 · I searched high and low,, there is nothing on the net on removing the CK20 injector pump? The CK20 appears to be completely different than the CK25/30 series as far as access to the right side of the engine. Tractor cranks but won't start. Model Year: 2006 Kioti company absolutely will not help with the bad injector pump even though they knew this was a problem with their tractors. Mar 23, 2011 · According to Kioti the only fix is a whole new injection pump, costing $1000 and up. Filled with fresh No 1 diesel. Oct 30, 2017 / Bleeding the fuel system on a Kioti Mar 12, 2013 · If all else fails, crack open each injector line right before it's injector one at a time. I believe it is the same issue show here. Jun 21, 2012 · After reading several post it seeems we have an injector pump problem. I took it the pump out today and confirmed it was the gears/pinions with broken teeth. I tried bleeding lines again but I have no fuel at the injector now. e. Don't let any spray hit your skin! Here's photos of one that Jun 11, 2007 · Others, who may have had a similar problem, hopefully will post their repair. We were able to repair the pump using Zexel parts which were in stock and an exact match. I'd hate to think that it's a complete failure of the fuel injection pump. 1 month ago i had the same problemi got the rod unstuck and it started but ran bad. Sep 13, 2014 · How many hours? the injector pumps will fail or I should say the fuel rack on the pump, if you take the plate off the side that has the oil fill plug and the throttle cables on it you can look in and see if the rack is moving when the fuel solenoid moves. The typical symptom is: tractor runs fine but won't restart after the engine is shut down. There have been some who have had injector pump problems but the engine reacted differently. Jun 27, 2023 · I have a 2006 ck20 that I bought not running. Would not buy from either again. Other than that, hard to say what the problem is right off hand with the information you supplied. Aug 9, 2016 · If you didn't get air into the injection pump then you shouldn't have an issue. Inspect the fluid condition, change or add more if needed/ Service or replace the faulty Hydraulic components. What to Do if the Diesel Fuel Injector Pump Is Failing. This did not occur in the earlier design that used an external stop solenoid or in later models after 2008. Several days ago I started it up and backed it out of the barn. Use the Right Diesel Fuel Injector Pumps for Your Make and Model. I hope this helps. I wanted to follow up on this conversation after receiving a Doowan injection pump from a Kioti this week. Move on down the line to you get to the injector pump. It took me about 6 1/2 hours from start to finish but the first hour was cleaning. If every think else is known to be good, then you have an injection pump problem. I put a nylon tie strap on it to hold it until the In today’s project, we’re tackling the fuel issues that put the Kioti NX5510 tractor down a couple weeks back. Kioti 2007 Dk45SE HST. We’ll pull it in the shop, drain the fuel tan Kioti Owning/Operating . Just talked to a mechanic and he has done a couple at his shop, one on a 30 and one on a CK40, both were sent out to a local shop for repair at around $600-700 to rebuild. There can be a ticking sound coming from the pump and it can be caused if there is water in the pump. The guy I bought it from said it had been setting up because of a problem. Gas tank to fuel lift pump line checked. I was able to find the pinions for sale online, or "sleeves" as they're listed, and had them on hand to replace the broken Nov 2, 2010 · I was looking a some old post concerning injector pump problems, can the pumps be rebulit or do they have to be replaced, If you want the name of the best Kioti Nov 9, 2011 · Kioti tractors with the new stop solenoid design built between 2005 and 2008 were vulnerable to injection pump failures caused by broken gear teeth on the injection pump control sleeves. One cheery note, the exact same IP costs about $500 more as a Kubota part (which makes me wonder if it's available for even less from someone else). Nov 22, 2013 · As this sticky thread seems the most relevant place to post, here's yet another injector pump failure story (abridged version). Jun 20, 2012 · btward: Your item #4 is the injection pump (IP) rack pin. Oct 16, 2014 · There is no way to tell how serve this problem is. But, IF you did then cracking an injector would be the way to help purge any such air. Therer is nothing in the manual about this, and I cannot find the valve. I am a fairly decent mechanic but I am stumped. Fired right up. He said the “cam” for the injector pump had been replaced and it was not “timed” correctly. The local dealer whom I bought it from was no help either, would not go to "bat" for me with the company. Turn on the key to make sure there is fuel coming out. Turn the engine over until fuel flows out to insure all the air is purged from that line, then tighten the nut an proceed to the next injector line. A clogged fuel injector or fuel lines are also some of the reasons the pump is Jul 23, 2013 · I have read about problems with many of kioti's injection pumps, but I thought the 2008 and newer models were supposed to be "fixed" If I remember right it was something about a spring loaded plunger that would snap back too fast and break at the no 4 fuel outlet area (inside the pump). Thread starter sherrym; Start date Jul 11, 2012 Jul 11, 2012 Jul 1, 2009 · Joined Oct 30, 2009 Messages 5,869 Location Jefferson County, Mo, about 35 miles out of St Tractor Bobcat CT235, Bad Boy z-turn, Suzuki Vinson 500 and F-150 Apr 3, 2020 · If so, take the fuel line off at the injection pump and insert it into a bottle. The local Kioti dealer and the company would provide no help except trying to sell me a new pump for over a thousand dollrs. That was going to be the next thing I was going to do but as it turns out I just heard from my dealer, he called Kioti and told them the problem. B. Mar 6, 2015 / Yet another Kioti injector pump failure. Jul 1, 2023 · The injectors are correct but i am having a problem with heat shields that goes at the tip of the injector and into the cylinder head. I called Kioti because i knew that i wasnt the only one that had this problem. I. I'll be interested to learn if you find any local repair capability or are forced to buy new IP from Kioti. Information for Kioti owners. Loosened injector fuel line and got no fuel being pumped out of Nov 28, 2020 · You verified it's getting air, no blockage, Kioti owners manual will suggest - "when power is insufficient" - Valve out of adjustment - Air Cleaner dirty - Fuel injection pressure is wrong - "If color of exhaust is bad"; fuel quality poor - Nozzle is bad - at 250hrs valve adjustment should not be an issue, however contaminated fuel can be a pain and cause blockage / failure at the injectors Nov 10, 2022 · With their expertise and guidance, you can restore your Kioti Mechron’s performance and get back to using it safely and effectively. It had the teeth missing from one of the gears as you've reported seeing. But we now know that this is a common Zexel (formerly Bosch) agricultural injection pump and parts are readily available for repairing it. Apparently the glow plug tips also broke off. Good Luck. Suspected a relay issue. May be a problem with the lift pump, but removing the supply line at the injection pump and checking flow will help eliminate any problem upstream. But everyone I have rebuilt have to be retimed due to small amounts of wear on all of the above items. My tractor is a 2006 CK30, 700+hrs. You can probably check this theory by removing an injector, reconnecting it to the feed line, and see if it sprays anything when you crank the engine. com Inspect fuel filters, injectors, lines, hoses, and the pump/ Service or replace the faulty components and bleed the air out of the fuel system if needed. Not sure where to go from here Nov 9, 2011 · Fellow Kioti owners and operators. If you are not getting fuel to the injector lines I would say the rack is stuck closed. Sometimes fuel pump can show some problems. Feb 7, 2020 · I figured I would throw to post up as food for thought while I put new fuel and return lines in and maybe throw some good injector cleaner in. Talked to a Kioti mechanic and found a local injector repair shop although I ended repairing using the thread at the top of this forum. Avail Warranty Service; If you are experiencing problems with your Kioti Mechron, it is important to take advantage of any warranty or service options available. Old fuel line, fails more by collapsing than leaking. Fuel lift pump to fuel filter line checked. Nov 24, 2013 · Jun 18, 2015 / Kioti LK35 Injector Pump Solenoid Problem #7 . Next turn the engine over in 3-5 second intervals until you see fuel coming out of the loose injector lines. I have a great personal relationship with the dealer so Im sure they will help me trouble shoot before I have to bring it in to them. He thinks it is a problem with the electrical side of the fuel pump system and has picked the tractor up to check it out. 2006 Dk45SC 2200 hours: Started having starting problems first, occasionally requiring 2-3 turns of the key before fuel would flow. It started Mar 31, 2013 · Just as you said it takes surplus fuel from the injectors and runs it back to the tank. It led to incidents of out of control very high RPMs. You verified it's getting air, no blockage, Kioti owners manual will suggest - "when power is insufficient" - Valve out of adjustment - Air Cleaner dirty - Fuel injection pressure is wrong - "If color of exhaust is bad"; fuel quality poor - Nozzle is bad - at 250hrs valve adjustment should not be an issue, however contaminated fuel can be a pain and cause blockage / failure at the injectors Apr 27, 2021 · Wouldnt restart. I have replaced fuel filter and fuel pump. Does Kioti really know they have a problem. The rod stopped moving and was jammed. KIOTI DAEDONG DK50 TRACTOR Service Repair Workshop Manual provides step-by-step Mar 19, 2017 · Tractor was bought new in 2015, only has 300 hours of time. Make sure that you have adequate fuel flow from the tank. bubbazoo New member. A few Mar 7, 2016 · The last thing you should be concerned about is the injection pump! Most problems with diesels have to do with the fuel delivery system from the tank to the injector pump inlet. Aug 10, 2012 · I had it for 3-4 years with 300 to 400 hours on it and the injection pump went. Look at your fuel line. Most times at this point the tractor will start so tighten the injector lines down and go to I have a CK25 2006 Kioti with 214 hours on it when the fuel injector broke and when a local tractor repair place took it apart it had chipped teeth on the gear. Nov 3, 2011 · My Kioti CK 20S is in for repair right noe for injector pump failure. A new IP is costly (vicinity of $1000-2000) so this is not a trivial repair. If that is good then I would try bleeding the injectors by loosening the injector lines and cranking the motor over until you see fuel spitting out of them. If not, check the shut off solenoid. Feb 5, 2002 · Kubota had some 3PT problems, Kioti has injector pump and key switch issues. This information will be most useful if you respond only after your failure is completely resolved. So my rebuilt will be the second pump. The tractor (and pump) has 280hrs on it. Funny, my pump is a Doowon and not a Zexel. Fuel Pump Problem. After researching, I figured it was the fuel injection pump. I bought a used Kioti LK3054 and have put a couple hours on it mowing a little and moving it around the farm. and spin the engine to see if fuel squirts out. When the pump is clogged it can stop the engine to start or stop the engine after it starts to run. Oct 20, 2021 · Well I am replying to my own post as know one has responded to my request for help with my Kioti LB 1914 daedong tractor no start issue. Expensive lesson, but better than an injector pump. It's about a 1999-2000 model and has a 3 cylinder diesel engine. I was hoping someone els might have a 1995 year model LB 1914 Kioti tractor like mine and ran into the same conditions on a no start daedong deism engine that came with this tractor when it was first sold in North Carolina in 1995. Has Kioto offered to help with these repairs? These problems can arise if the filters are dirty or the air somehow gets into the system. The thread is pretty thorough and explained a lot. I have also had to do this with some of the hydraulic lines - FEL & backhoe fitted/ Aug 5, 2023 · I'm just trying to find any potential problems I'm missing that aren't a $1500 injection pump. lhum qsxn ixw ivtl hvkcf ejfekmh yzwzllh jcxg ugjfh plbj zyllq zddeml cfdu qouirvbw nmpiyx